Daisho Con

As a Lutheran I got confirmed in 8th grade (I believe Catholics get confirmed younger), but yes I had wine. I remember it tasting terrible. [/quote]about that. I was confirmed at age 17 which is 2 years ago. my brother got confirmed this year. I just asked because if you had grape juice then I would have to laugh. Real Christians drink wine at communion. Actually I don't drink the wine often and it isn't a sacrelige to do so either. But still good to know you had the wine.[/quote]

I see. I would have been 14 at the time. It seems tradition differs for each Church.

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sks wrote:As a Lutheran I got confirmed in 8th grade (I believe Catholics get confirmed younger), but yes I had wine. I remember it tasting terrible.

No you don't get confirmed in Catholicism until your senior year of high school. Or until you are in the 17-18 years of age area.

couchmaster wrote: I was confirmed at age 17 which is 2 years ago.

huh? Am I reading this wrong? You're 22

There are a lot of wack-jobs out there. This kid simply made the mistake of bringing himself into the public eye. Now being a Lutheran, it's (literally) my God given right to hate my fellow cathloic. However in this case I can't, at least not fully.

I understand why the church is upset. In a day and age where christians are being villainzied and scrutinized so heavily, this is like a huge slap in the face. Personally, I feel if this kid has only recieved 34 death threats from this situation, he's probably on the winning side of the ball here. The idiots actually sending this kid hatemail clearly have way too much time on their hands, and are really not practicing true catholicism anyway with the whole turn the other cheek thing.

Now, political and religious views partially aside, I think the better point you all need to realize is this, In this day and age, if some kid were to do something equivalently sacreligious to Muslims. Would the media and general public reaction be the same? Needless to say, the answer is no. The person that did this would've been arrested for hate (or as I call them, thought) crimes almost immediately and drug through our court system, not just some panel or board at a college where clearly the worst that will happen to this young fellow is a healthy bit of community service as he did nothing violent or disruptive to the campus as a whole, which i commend him for.

The church needs to relax, turn the other cheek here, and pray for this kid... not call down the freaking thunder or wrath upon him.

This kid, however, could go pretty far in fixing this whole situation with a public apology, and wether or not the rest of you want to see that, at it's core level this is an issue of theft from a private facility. It may not bear any significant relevance to the rest of you, but to the worshippers in that church it did. Kind of like that soccer trophy on your book case, that cosplay award on your wall, or something similar. To this kid it' a cracker, heck, to me it's a cracker, lutherans actually get bread. To the church it's something more.

Spittin Wheelie wrote:

couchmaster wrote: I was confirmed at age 17 which is 2 years ago.

huh? Am I reading this wrong? You're 22

i didn't say i was confirmed 2 years ago, whoever inputed the original quote did it wrong and it didn't come through right. In other words the stuff that was said at the bottom is mine.

Spittin Wheelie wrote:

couchmaster wrote: I was confirmed at age 3 which is -4i years ago.

huh? Am I reading this wrong? You're 22

I never had wine for communion. Huh.

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That's something like when I first was confirmed and had that blood-wine stuff. I got close but I never crossed that line. My father forced us all go to confirmation or whatever it was called, but after my brother and sister graduated, I still had quite a bit to go, and like halloween and all the other things in my life, since the important sibilings were all taken care of, my father just stopped taking me. That is probably one of the major reasons I don't quite identify myself with the christian faith.

For catholics, the bread is not just bread after the priest has blessed it, IT becomes the "body" of Christ. and the wine becomes christ's "blood. When he took that that is a huge sacralige in eyes of the church. And they are right it that sacralige is just as much of a hate crime as say burning a cross in an african americans yard. As for the wafers that are given to the bearers, they are blessed and given with the sole intention giving it for members of the church who are physically unable to be there.

I had a fun conversation a while ago about communion wafers becoming the body of Christ.

If we took the consumed wafer and cloned it, could we then resurrect Jesus?

The way I see it is that the person did commit sacrilege, but all he stole was a nasty piece of unrisen bread. (Sorry, I've never been a fan of the taste of the wafers and the wine. ) The wafers were not blessed (admittedly I do not know Catholic teachings, so I may be wrong... I'm coming at it from a Lutheran standpoint) and therefore weren't the body and the blood, but the act of breaking and entering, as well as theft from a church of all places, is wrong. I don't think anyone here is going to disagree with that.

It's time for Necromaniacs!
Where they bring the old threads back!

Granolaman wrote:It's time for Necromaniacs!
Where they bring the old threads back!

I value everyones opinion, but please be respectful

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I wasn't trying to be disrespectful, I just lol every time people post in old topics (aka thread necro-ing), and this one just happened to be especially ancient.

If you feel I was particularily disrespectful, please pm me since I try to avoid thread jacking where I can.